It's intellectually dishonest the extent to which people like yourself throw out stats on false accusations or on anything relating to potential societal/systemic issues faced by men, given the extent to which leftwing thought routinely/justly challenges official narratives and breaks down statistics as they're more than just empiricisims-


I won't try to talk statistics as an expert, numbers aren't my strongsuit so insofar as I understand, I won't voice an explanation if a better one exists; but I've always gone back to this when faced with the 2-8% stat.


https://www.datagoneodd.com/blog/2015/01/25/how-to-lie-and-mislead-with-rape-statistics-part-1/


https://www.datagoneodd.com/blog/2015/01/27/how-to-lie-and-mislead-with-rape-statistics-part-2/


If you prefer not to engage with that due to not coming from me, that's understandable.


But to focus on one specific point.


There's power in a perceived lack of it; whether that's with sex or race or other identity qualifiers.


That's not something often readily admitted to, I think.


The mainstream left narrative on false accusaitons entails schrodinger's social norms as far as abusive actions towards women go, or maybe Schrodinger's false accusations is better phrasing; the latter existing only historically and in a specific context with white women falsely accusing black men due to an oppressive patriarchal system that prioritizes purity/white male ownership of their bodies; when in reality it only takes a simple look to see that the most common means of men being subdued physically or their silence gained for IPV and other abuse i.e rape to occur, is a false accusation.


(I.e Willie McGee)


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_McGee_(convict)


I understand the power of words and reputational destruction as far as slut shaming and labeling a woman "crazy-" to undercut her experience of abuse in a relationship, I know the power of norms unspoken.


So when people can't comprehend that maybe in a world where boys and men are told adnaseum not to hit women, to treat them in certain ways, that a large portion of them do follow said norms and that said norms can be weaponized by bad acting women/girls.


That the spectre of a false allegation unspoken when physically aggressed on by a woman will lead a man to submit, that a false accusation doesn't need to reach the legal system to be an issue as they can exist between two people, a family, a social circle, and a community without charges ever being filed.


Which is why I don't divorce a false accusation from abuse when I discuss them or only discuss them with the niche of celebrity, or when they're verbally made, false accusations aren't rare as they're inherent to abuse- you are using flawed thinking if you approach this issue in any other way.


And since Amber is of relevance here, it's the flaw underlining all feminist analysis of the case and all vomiting of DARVO towards Depp and the increased usage it's seen in Feminist spaces in regards to any man voicing victimhood- I'd respect feminist breakdowns of the case more if a single one of them considered how power dynamics could differently effect men of any social status.


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Anecdote time; but when I as a black man can be slapped with no-prompting by a girl in HS at lunch and the thought of retaliation never even cross my mind.


When I can see anecdotes/isolated videos used to make broad statements about men and abuse on a daily basis and on the flip side see a litany of videos of women absolutely battering men in public unobstructed or with men intervening as if the man was an aggressor when inevitably physically retaliating to usually a lesser degree, it makes me pretty sussy.

When I as a pretty scrawny barely out of my teens black boy can be assaulted by my great-grandmother during her bladder infection induced state of hallucinations, with the intent to provoke me into leaving a mark on her through grabbing her (not punching, through de-escalation) it's hard for me to believe that men like yourself or women in these spaces can't conceive of this occurring with the littlest bit of empathetic, flexible thought; but then again, when you walk with a belief in vested empathy/a comprehensive understanding of half of the populatiom and have no social pressure to do otherwise, it be like that.


Men shouldn't fear false allegations and many people that purport to speak for men have horrendous rhetoric around false allegations- but the other side isn't much better in my view.

Sources:


"Dr. Denise Hines conducts a considerable amount of research into modern issues faced by male DV victims, particularly of female abusers.
She found 73% report being threatened with false allegations-"

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605211001476

"90% of male victims of IPV (intimate partner violence) report their female partner threatens to make false accusations."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8336931/

The first research of it's kind in the UK- on interviews of men forced to penetrate.

"One victim recounted this:

‘She said “what are you gonna do? I’ll start screaming rape and you’re up in court tomorrow, do you think they’ll believe anything you’ve got to say?’’

https://wp.lancs.ac.uk/forced-to-penetrate-cases/

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-49057533

The mental harm of false allegations on children and their victims:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26522849/

Courts increasing opinion of false allegations as a method of DV in and of themselves:

https://www.saveservices.org/2020/03/nebraska-judge-rules-false-allegations-are-a-form-of-domestic-violence/